The funny thing is my Throwback Thursday pic was a GIF of Jay-Z and Kanye West living their best lives doing donuts in a destroyed/customized Maybach 57 in 2011’s “Otis”. They were rich, chillin’ with beautiful models, making some of the best music out at the time and giving us all of the good feelings. Feelings that I felt when I caught myself having a whole party in my subway seat when my Google Play handpicked “Ni**as in Paris” that morning, another hit from the pair’s legendary collaboration, Watch The Throne.
But things haven’t been good in the Hova household for some time now. In addition to revelations the rapper dropped on his latest album, 4:44 about infidelity in his marriage, the former Roc-A-Fella artist also drops a few bars about where things with his former college drop-out BFF went wrong. On the track “Kill Jay Z” he remarks:
You dropped outta school, you lost your principles
I know people backstab you, I felt bad too
But this ‘fuck everybody’ attitude ain’t natural
But you ain’t a Saint, this ain’t KumbaYe
But you got hurt because you did cool by ‘Ye
There’s talk of Ye’ being owed money from Tidal, and there was that outburst at a concert last year in which Ye’ directly called out his former colleague:
“I’ve been sent here to give y’all my truth even at the risk of my own life, my own success, my own career. Jay Z—call me, bruh. You still ain’t called me. Jay Z, I know you got killers. Please don’t send them at my head. Please call me. Talk to me like a man.”
Admittedly I had mixed feelings about 4:44 at first listen and honestly I haven’t replayed it much since it dropped because I felt like it was missing something, or maybe I just missed Kanye. And now Jay-Z is sitting down to give fans some insight on why the two don’t talk much anymore. In a two-part interview with Rap Radar, the rapper provided some more insight on what went into making his latest album and what exactly was the last straw on their friendship. To no surprise, it has a whole lot to do with Beyoncé and Blue Ivy:
“It’s not even about Kanye, it really isn’t.”
“His name is there, just because it’s just the truth of what happened. But the whole point is ‘You got hurt because this person was talking about you on a stage.’ But what really hurt me was, you can’t bring my kids and my wife into it. Kanye’s my little brother. He’s talked about me 100 times. He made a song called ‘Big Brother.’ We’ve gotten past bigger issues. But you brought my family into it, now it’s a problem with me. That’s a real, real problem. And he knows it’s a problem.”
Jay directly refers to the Saint Pablo tour stop in Sacramento in which Kanye went on a tangent and also stated that their kids never played together. Jay says it’s definitely not the first time the two have disagreed, but that the vibe is definitely different this time:
“He knows that he crossed the line.”
“I know him. He knows. I know he knows, because we’ve never let this much space go between one of our disagreements, and we’ve had many, because that’s who we are. That’s what I like about him. He’s an honest person, he’s open and he’ll say things and he’s wrong a lot of times and he’ll confront it.”
He also goes on to discuss his intentions with 4:44 to tackle issues of legacy, racism and masculinity and the role of black men in marriage and relationships:
“Just like from the beginning of someone’s career and making that sort of album that really means something — touches the culture like a touch point, moves conversation and just be really f**king good and s**t — it’s, like, a hard thing to do because you’re so removed from where you were in the beginning.”
“And I really had to like think about what I wanted to say on this album at the time, think about the next thing, what was the next thing that I wanted to say and I didn’t want to just make an album to just put out music, I wanted to be important.”
It takes a pretty strong and patient person to be BFF’s with Kanye West and his ego, but we hope these two can grow close once again. Blue Ivy and North may not have that play date scheduled just yet, but maybe one day their dads can make great music together again.
You can watch the full Rap Radar interview here.